Ep 7/12: From PR to Presence, a conversation about culture, founders and addiction with Sarah Rice
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In this episode of Through the Fog, I sit down with Sarah Rice, an organizational culture strategist and coach who has spent over two decades helping founders and leaders navigate the complex, often contradictory expectations of modern leadership.
We explore the hidden pressures on entrepreneurs to become both “priests and parents” to their teams, how culture shapes behavior, and the power of being honest about your motives, even if they’re not pretty.
Sarah also shares her personal journey through recovery, the lessons she’s learned about over identification with work, and why embodied leadership matters more than ever. This candid, warm, and occasionally irreverent conversation is a must-listen for anyone steering a business, and themselves, through uncertainty.
Chapters
00:00 Navigating Transitions and Personal Growth
02:57 The Venn Diagram of Identity
05:41 The Role of Business in Community
08:47 Mental Health and Leadership Responsibilities
11:51 The Pressure on Leaders
14:31 Learning from Other Organizational Structures
17:40 The Importance of Values in Business
20:44 Defining Authentic Values
23:33 The Role of Storytelling in Values
26:29 The Complexity of Truth and Oversharing
29:26 The Importance of Community and Relationships
32:20 Lessons from Personal Connections
35:10 Embracing Uncertainty and Surrendering Control
42:42 The Role of Spirituality in the Workplace
49:42 Decision-Making and Intuition
01:00:50 The Power of the 12-Step Program
01:05:14 Navigating Paradox and Duality
01:09:07 Future Aspirations and Coaching Goals
Find Sarah here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahelizabethrice/
More about me and the show here: https://thisispierre.co/podcast
We explore the hidden pressures on entrepreneurs to become both “priests and parents” to their teams, how culture shapes behavior, and the power of being honest about your motives, even if they’re not pretty.
Sarah also shares her personal journey through recovery, the lessons she’s learned about over identification with work, and why embodied leadership matters more than ever. This candid, warm, and occasionally irreverent conversation is a must-listen for anyone steering a business, and themselves, through uncertainty.
Chapters
00:00 Navigating Transitions and Personal Growth
02:57 The Venn Diagram of Identity
05:41 The Role of Business in Community
08:47 Mental Health and Leadership Responsibilities
11:51 The Pressure on Leaders
14:31 Learning from Other Organizational Structures
17:40 The Importance of Values in Business
20:44 Defining Authentic Values
23:33 The Role of Storytelling in Values
26:29 The Complexity of Truth and Oversharing
29:26 The Importance of Community and Relationships
32:20 Lessons from Personal Connections
35:10 Embracing Uncertainty and Surrendering Control
42:42 The Role of Spirituality in the Workplace
49:42 Decision-Making and Intuition
01:00:50 The Power of the 12-Step Program
01:05:14 Navigating Paradox and Duality
01:09:07 Future Aspirations and Coaching Goals
Find Sarah here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahelizabethrice/
More about me and the show here: https://thisispierre.co/podcast
