Breaking the martyr cycle: Why mothers need community and creative fire with Amy Rogerson
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In this episode, my guest is Amy Rogerson, a spiritual midwife, postpartum care provider, and creator of Mother Nurture - a woman who brings a uniquely powerful perspective to motherhood and maternal transformation. Amy describes herself as feeling "particularly feisty," and that energy radiates throughout our conversation about power, descent, and the revolutionary potential of mothers who refuse to martyr themselves.
We dive deep into Amy's philosophy that motherhood should "ruin your life" - not as tragedy, but as necessary destruction that creates space for rebirth. She challenges the martyr mother narrative, explaining how this pattern serves wounds rather than children, and why the descent into darkness is as crucial as the ascent that follows. Drawing from Ayurvedic wisdom and natural cycles, Amy explains why honoring the first 40 days postpartum affects the next 40 years of a mother's life.
Amy shares her own journey through addiction, depression, and alopecia alongside becoming a mother, and how this led her to create communities centered on seeing mothers, holding space, and accessing creative life force. We explore the paradox of motherhood, the ruthlessness required for authentic selfhood, and why a world of mothers claiming their full power would be a revolution the world isn't ready for.
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We dive deep into Amy's philosophy that motherhood should "ruin your life" - not as tragedy, but as necessary destruction that creates space for rebirth. She challenges the martyr mother narrative, explaining how this pattern serves wounds rather than children, and why the descent into darkness is as crucial as the ascent that follows. Drawing from Ayurvedic wisdom and natural cycles, Amy explains why honoring the first 40 days postpartum affects the next 40 years of a mother's life.
Amy shares her own journey through addiction, depression, and alopecia alongside becoming a mother, and how this led her to create communities centered on seeing mothers, holding space, and accessing creative life force. We explore the paradox of motherhood, the ruthlessness required for authentic selfhood, and why a world of mothers claiming their full power would be a revolution the world isn't ready for.
Follow Amy on:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/somaticsofspirit/
Substack: https://somaticsofspirit.substack.com/
Website: https://www.somaticsofspirit.com/
Follow Carly on:
Website: https://onthecouchwithcarly.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfBi56xQookfRGL3zvWVzCg
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthecouchwithcarly/?hl=en
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/onthecouchwithcarly/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@onthecouchwithcarly
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/on-the-couch-with-carly/id1497585376
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3t7A2FMnISQ2fz9D5p0Xuw
Chapters
- 00:00 Introduction to Amy Rogerson - spiritual midwife and maternal mentor
- 02:07 Amy feeling "feisty" - work designed around mother's physiology
- 04:03 Personal healing journey: addiction, depression, anxiety through motherhood
- 05:56 Losing hair (alopecia) - work as expression of power vs trauma
- 07:49 Ruthlessness of children and mothers needing the same energy
- 09:56 Burning the martyr mother narrative - serving wounds not children
- 11:58 Power as late realization - baptism by fire transformation
- 13:31 Descent and ascent cycles matching natural patterns
- 15:37 Ayurveda: first 40 days affect next 40 years
- 18:41 Motherhood as embodiment of paradox - holding opposites
- 21:43 Five pillars of postpartum care - nervous system foundation
- 27:31 "My children ruined my life" - it should be ruined
- 29:33 Permission and narrative - being okay with brokenness
- 31:45 Nature as a primary resource - dead seals and the ecosystem
- 34:55 Mother Nurture community - monthly membership details
- 40:14 Creative Mentorship - bridge between motherhood and work
- 43:50 Creativity and life force - global wish for women's power
- 46:07 Eros as vitality - play, creativity, polarity expressions
- 47:26 Mother Nurture vs Creative Council - surrender creates power
