
Design, Resilience, and the Art of Meaning
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In this episode, Brandt Botes of Dentsu Creative Africa sits down with the remarkable Debbie Millman: designer, writer, educator, brand consultant, and host of the award-winning podcast Design Matters. Together, they explore the intersections of design, storytelling, and personal growth, tracing Debbie’s journey from her early fascination with branding, illustrated through a hand-drawn map of Manhattan at the age of eight to her influential voice in modern design thinking.
Debbie reflects on failure, resilience, and the enduring role of hope in creative work. She shares her perspective on what defines a truly successful brand, the moral responsibilities of designers, and the delicate balance between authenticity and narrative construction in branding.
Listeners will gain insights into Debbie’s views on the evolving relationship between consumers and brands, the lessons from infamous rebranding missteps, and how creative people find meaning not in accolades, but in the act of making itself.
A rich, reflective conversation about purpose, vulnerability, and the craft of creating lasting impact.
Debbie reflects on failure, resilience, and the enduring role of hope in creative work. She shares her perspective on what defines a truly successful brand, the moral responsibilities of designers, and the delicate balance between authenticity and narrative construction in branding.
Listeners will gain insights into Debbie’s views on the evolving relationship between consumers and brands, the lessons from infamous rebranding missteps, and how creative people find meaning not in accolades, but in the act of making itself.
A rich, reflective conversation about purpose, vulnerability, and the craft of creating lasting impact.





