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When Shift Happens

When Shift Happens is a podcast about navigating change, hosted by Saray Khumalo, the first Black African woman to summit Mount Everest.

After being turned back three times by avalanche, earthquake and injury, Saray returned to the mountain and reached the summit on her fourth attempt. That journey shaped her understanding of resilience, courage and what it takes to keep moving when everything tells you to stop.

In this podcast, Saray speaks with leaders, professionals, athletes and change-makers about the moments that tested them. Together, they explore how to respond when plans shift, confidence wavers or life moves in an unexpected direction.

Each episode offers practical insight, honest reflection and grounded lessons for anyone navigating career moves, personal transitions or new seasons of life.

New episodes drop every Monday at 5:00am.

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Shift happens.
What matters is how you rise.
Let's go higher.

A JacPod Original by Jacaranda FM.
Weekly English South Africa Management · Self-Improvement
4 Episodes

A quieter kind of leader: Zakhele Mkhize on responsibility and purpose

Some leaders speak loudly about success. Others speak quietly about responsibility. Zakhele Mkhize belongs firmly in the second group. Widely respected in South African business circles, he is not someone who usually seeks the spotlight. In fact, this conversation with Saray Khumalo is the first podcast he has ever recorded…
8 Mar 48 min

Leading with authenticity when everything shifts: Khensani Nobanda

What does real leadership look like when your identity, purpose and certainty are shaken? In this episode of When Shift Happens, Saray Khumalo speaks with Khensani Nobanda, Group Chief Marketing Officer at Nedbank, about the deeply personal shifts that reshaped how she leads, lives and defines success. Behind one of…
1 Mar 51 min

This is my story: Saray Khumalo on resilience, failure and rising

Before she could ask others how they navigated change, Saray Khumalo had to live it herself. In this opening episode of When Shift Happens, Saray shares her personal story in her own words and reflects on the moments that shaped her leadership, her resilience and her purpose. This is the…
22 Feb 40 min

When Shift Happens launches 23 February 2026

Three times, Mount Everest turned Saray Khumalo back. Avalanche. Earthquake. Injury. On her fourth attempt, she reached the summit and became the first Black African woman to do so. When Shift Happens is a new podcast about navigating change, resilience and rising under pressure. Hosted by Saray Khumalo, the series…
11 Feb 1 min