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'Scientific evidence that South Africa is much better than 30 years ago': Gwen Ramokgopa 

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There is objective and scientific evidence that South Africa is much better than 30 years ago. Those are the words of ANC treasurer-general Gwen Ramokgopa, who had a one-on-one sit-down interview with Sunday Times politics reporter Kgothatso Madisa. 
6 Nov 2023 7AM English South Africa News · Daily News

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