Running from Depression

27.06.25 Pt 2 - Gareth Cliff, Simphiwe Mthethwa, and Ben Karpinski dive into a real conversation about coping with depression — is physical action like going for a run the answer, or is it more about shifting your mindset? Ben previews the Springboks’ big return to the field this weekend, and a listener’s clever tip for blocking spam calls gets Gareth’s instant seal of approval.